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</script></div><div style="height:100%;min-height:100%;overflow:auto;"><p>Summary: Brick isn&#8217;t a good insulator as is commonly thought; other tips for saving energy.<br />
Tags: insulation, brick, fiberglass, R-value, energy consumption<br />
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I want to insulate my brick house and was talking with a company which drills holes in from the outside and injects foam.</p>
<p>Any advice?</p>
<p>Also looking to insulate my 3rd floor. Not much attic space for insulation to be blown in, no access points etc. The roof line is the ceiling on the third floor. It is a great space but cold in the winter and the ceiling gets very hot in the summer. House is from 1915. Is there a good solution?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<p>Brick is commonly thought to insulate well, but actually it&#8217;s pretty bad.  It has other good qualities though &#8212; moisture permeability, thermal mass, and it doesn&#8217;t rot nor need painting, etc.</p>
<p>The basic R-value of 1 is basically equivalent to one inch of solid wood, so for solid wood the value is 1 R per inch.  Brick is much less at 0.2 R per inch.</p>
<p>Roughly (R/inch):</p>
<p>.2 Brick<br />
1 Wood<br />
3 Fiberglass or cellulose<br />
4 compressed fiberglass<br />
5 Styrene<br />
7 polyisocyanurate<br />
?? vacuum panels boast much more but are still way too expensive</p>
<p>So, with<br />
1 inch of polyisocyanurate you can get the same effect as<br />
7  inches of solid wood, or<br />
35 inches of solid brick.</p>
<p>Most probably they pump polyisocyanurate in the gap between courses of brick, and double or triple the final R value of the brick wall by doing so.</p>
<p>R value is NOT the only important value though.  If you insulate such that you don&#8217;t allow the moisture out, you can end up with rot or water-logged (and less-insulating) insulation.</p>
<p>Thermal mass will reduce heating and cooling in the spring and fall when there are 55 to 80 degree days/nights, but has much less benefit in the Summer and Winter.</p>
<p>Depending upon your house, lowering the thermostat for a few hours during the day may or may not save energy because the catch-up is less efficient.  It is my untest opinion that the very massive houses typical of OTE, don&#8217;t benefit from daily thermostat setbacks, and in fact, it is possible in some situations that it may burn more fuel than leaving it at a constant setting.  On the other end of the spectrum, low thermal-mass houses with little insulation can benefit from daily themostat set-backs though.</p>
<p>To cut down your energy bill, reducing air infiltration should be the first step.  You can add R-50 everywhere and not notice much of a savings if your house is &#8216;loose&#8217;.  Very often people insulate when actually they should be caulking, fixing windows, and sealing holes in the foundation and the top floor ceilings.  After you have made your house tight, then focus on insulating.</p>
<p>Direct-vent furnaces and water heaters also help in that they don&#8217;t need to pull outside air in through your house for combustion, they pull and exhaust air directly through a dedicated vent.</p>
<p>Comments<br />
Wed, 03/14/2007 &#8211; 16:05 — registereduser (not verified)<br />
vapor barrier</p>
<p>what&#8217;s the best way to deal with a vapor barrier? Is primer a vapor barrier? What about Tyvek?<br />
Wed, 03/14/2007 &#8211; 16:34 — Quint<br />
Some primers are vapor</p>
<p>Some primers are vapor  barriers, some are not, you have to check the individual products.</p>
<p>Generally, the best place for a vapor barrier is on the interior wall surface, i.e. the interior paint.  Shellac, like BIN, is a good vapor barrier.  Any moisture inside, will stop at the shellac and not travel outward and get your insulation wet, or cause rot.  Regular interior wall paint is usually not a vapor barrier &#8212; the moisture goes through it.</p>
<p>If you are in an air conditioned home in a hot humid region, you will need the vapor barrier to be on the outside instead.  Basically, you want to block the water vapor at the first surface.  For most homes, the vapor inside, moving out, is usually the problem.</p>
<p>Tyvek is a plastic sheet that stops liquid water, but allows water vapor through.  It is to prevent water from spashing, spraying, or blowing in.  Is it similar to Gore-Tex but has a slower transmission rate.  From a research project I did ten years ago, these are the numbers I recall.  Tyvek breathes at about 35 milliliters per square yard per day.  Gore-Tex breathes at 3000 milliliters per square yard per day.  There were several types of tests for breathability too, so take this only as an illustration, not as hard data.</p>
<p>Quint</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smaller structures take more gas per square foot.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m going to turn my garage into a home office.  How much insulation should I use?&#8221;</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>A common mistake, when estimating energy costs, is to consider the square footage of a structure.</p>
<p>&#8220;If my house is 2000 square feet and costs $200 to heat in the middle of the winter, and my garage is 200 square feet, it should cost $20, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is roughly true in terms of heating them UP, but not for KEEPING THEM HEATED.  Heat LOSS is a function of wall area.</p>
<p>Consider a 2000 square foot house and a 200 square foot garage.  If they are both simple squares, the house is approximately 45 x 45 and the garage is 14 x 14.  The total wall length for the house is 180 feet and the garage is 56.  So the garage will cost approximately one-third to heat</p>
<p>House 2000 square feet<br />
Garage 200 square feet</p>
<p>House walls are 45 feet long (square root of 2000)<br />
Garage walls are 14 feet long (square root of 200)</p>
<p>Total wall  length of House is 180 feet (4 times 45)<br />
Total wall length of Garage is 56 feet  (4 times 14)</p>
<p>Garage has 31% of the lineal wall footage of the house.</p>
<p>All things being equal, the energy cost to heat the garage should be 31% of the cost to heat the house, not 10% (based on square footage).</p>
<p>The bottom line is that smaller structures need more insulation.<br />
HOW MUCH INSULATION?</p>
<p>So the next logical question is:</p>
<p>&#8220;If my house is insulated with R-15, what do I need to insulate the garage with to get the energy costs down to 10% of the house?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read in many places that if you double your  insulation, you cut your energy in half (inversely proportional).  I&#8217;m not completely convinced of this, but it may be correct, so, in our example above, you&#8217;d have to insulate the garage with insulation of about R-45.</p>
<p>Other factors come quickly into view at this point.</p>
<p>AIR INFILTRATION &#8212; Allowing air to leak in or out can quickly undermine any attempt to reduce energy costs.  Air leaks must be fixed first.</p>
<p>FRAMING &#8212; Wood framing does not insulate as well as actual insulating materials and dilutes the R-value of the wall.  Top and bottom plates, window and door perimeters, jack studs, and cripples, even wiring and piping increase the conductivity of the wall.</p>
<p>ROOF and SOUTH-FACING WALL &#8212; This is a tough one.  A black roof or south-facing wall can add a fair amount of energy to a structure during times of full sun.  Ideally, the insulation could be &#8217;switched off&#8221; if the roof or wall were actually heating the home.  Since that&#8217;s not possible, I&#8217;ve dreamed up a few systems to capture this heat, but haven&#8217;t built any yet.</p>
<p>WINDOWS and DOORS &#8212; usually have an R-value in the single digits.  South-facing windows can let quite a bit of heat in during full sun.</p>
<p>GEOTHERMAL &#8212; If your house is build on dry sand, I don&#8217;t suspect you would lose much energy to the ground because sand is a poor conductor.  On the other extreme, if you are on a marsh, you would continuously lose energy to the ground.  The two factors are how conductive is the soil, and how much underground water movement is there.</p>
<p>Conclusion &#8212; Okay, so how much insulation?</p>
<p>I guess the bottom line is how much do you want to spend upfront, and how much do you want to spend in ongoing energy costs?  If you want low energy costs, go with the high R-value in the wall (19 or 25), quality windows and doors, and a south-facing window with an awning for the summer.  If you want to shave the upfront costs down as far as possible, put in minimal components and just heat the space during work hours with a programmable thermostat.</p>


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